Showing posts with label Denmark. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Denmark. Show all posts

2012-04-29

European Financial Companies to Fund European Ratings Agency — Denmark Is a Massive Subprime Base of Mortgages and Hosting One the Biggest Real Estate Bubbles in the World

I guess when you're not happy with the ratings you have because you cannot control the rater, you should fund your own rating agency. Note that in the US, only rating agency has dared to lower the rating of Uncle Sam, which gives them their oligopoly and hence funds their very useless but very lucrative business.
(Reuters) - European financial companies have agreed to back the creation of a European Rating Agency to compete with Standard & Poor's, Moody's and Fitch, a strategy consultants involved in setting up the new agency said on Thursday. 
"Following intensive talks conducted across Europe, a number of financial companies have now agreed to support the establishment of a global rating agency of European origin," said Markus Krall, a partner at Roland Berger Strategy Consultants. 
"We will soon wrap up the fundraising and complete operational realization of the new independent agency. We are currently in the process laying the institutional and corporate groundwork," he added, declining to name the companies that will provide the financial backing. 
A number of organisations are evaluating how to launch a new European rating agency after European policymakers criticised Standard & Poor's, Moody's and Fitch during the euro zone debt crisis, saying they have been too quick to cut the credit ratings of indebted European Union states despite bailouts and austerity drives. 
In a recent move, S&P downgraded the credit ratings of nine euro zone countries, stripping France and Austria of their coveted triple-A status. 

Markus Krall will relinquish his role as senior partner at Roland Berger to become the founding chief executive of the new agency, Roland Berger said in a press release. 
Efforts to launch a European rating agency are also being made by the Bertelsmann Foundation which is seeking to overhaul the way rating agencies rate sovereign debt.
The Bertelsmann Foundation has said it will lead a group of international experts to develop a model for a non-profit rating institution. 
The foundation, based in Guetersloh, Germany is a politically nonpartisan think tank dedicated to making an "enduring contribution to society" including a "just and efficient economic system." 
Funded from its income from shares in publishing giant Bertelsmann AG, the foundation has offices in Brussels and Washington. (Reporting by Edward Taylor; Editing by Mark Potter)
Personally, I would be more supportive of simply ditching the ratings agencies, or making them a creation of the free market: that is, they should be created by entrepreneurs, and they should be selling their reports to the investors who want to invest in company X.

Currently, ratings agencies are an oligopoly created the US government (and the Chinese) ; and company X fund the report (basically, meaning that there's a massive conflict of interest).

Looks like investors in Denmark are getting there, but because their investments have been downgraded (meaning they are about to lose or have already lost money as a result of falling prices of their bonds).

The report below contains a few extra interesting points:

  • Denmark has the 3rd largest mortgage bond industry in the world, for such a tiny country — expect a massive bubble to pop
  • Investors don't care about the ratings, because those mortgages are safe — we all know how this story ends
  • Marc Stacey explains why ratings agencies have to herd — meaning they are basically non-independent, due to conflicts of interest and lack of independent thinking as well.
  • Adjustable-rate loans, as well as loans that delay principle payments by as much as 10 years, make up more than half Denmark’s outstanding homeowner debt — meaning that the whole mortgage industry is a massive subprime one, based on a pyramid of debt with delayed repayment 

(Bloomberg) — 2012-04-19 Denmark’s biggest banks are firing Moody’s Investors Service as they win assurances from some of the country’s biggest investors that the opinions of ratings companies hold limited value. 
Nykredit A/S, Denmark’s biggest mortgage lender and Europe’s largest issuer of covered bonds backed by home loans, terminated its contract with Moody’s on April 13, citing its “volatile” views. Danske Bank A/S (DANSKE)’s mortgage unit Realkredit Danmark A/S, the country’s second-largest home-loan provider, dropped Moody’s in June. Jyske Bank A/S, Denmark’s second- biggest listed bank, is looking into ending its dealings with Moody’s, according to Steen Nygaard, its head of treasury. 
They have just crossed the line for fairness,” Nygaard said in an interview. “It’s not just that we have an opinion and if they rule against us, we are mad and walk away. It is about the fundamentals where we simply cannot follow Moody’s arguments.” 
Moody’s in June criticized Denmark’s $470 billion mortgage- bond industry, the world’s third largest after the U.S. and Germany, for failing to curb refinancing risks fueled by a mismatch in funding and lending maturities. Since then, Nykredit’s benchmark index of Denmark’s most-traded mortgage bonds has risen 6.3 percent to a record, signaling investors are disregarding the warnings. 
[...] “It’s not that ratings don’t matter. Of course they do,” said Inger Huus Pedersen, head of fixed-income investments at Hellerup, Denmark-based pension fund PKA, which oversees about $27 billion in assets. “These mortgage bonds, we feel pretty secure about. It’s an old system that’s gone through a lot, which is why I’m quite secure about the system. History has shown us that ratings agencies make mistakes as well.”
[...] In Denmark, Moody’s has been tougher on mortgage banks than other rating companies. [...] “Moody’s has shown a harsh stance on banks ratings compared to the other agencies,” said Marc Stacey, a fund manager at BlueBay Asset Management Ltd. in London, which oversees $42 billion in credit. “If Moody’s upcoming announcements show that they are an outlier, compared to where the other two rating agencies are, then you may find the Moody’s rating being dropped by more and more issuers.” 
[...] Denmark’s two-century-old mortgage market has moved away from traditional, fixed-rate 30-year loans and started offering adjustable rates in 1996 and interest-only loans in 2003 to attract more customers. The country is still struggling to emerge from a recession triggered by a burst housing bubble in 2007. A regional banking crisis claimed three lenders last year. 
“We agree there are risks, but they are less than when the house prices were in a bubble phase,” Nygaard said. “We cannot see the huge risk to the Danish economy. Jyske Bank is much stronger today that it was in 2007.” [...]  
While Denmark’s government debt is half the euro-area average at 44.6 percent of gross domestic product in 2012, the European Commission estimates, its private debt is the world’s highest. Household debt reached 310 percent of disposable incomes in 2010, according to Exane BNP Paribas. Danes’ savings, while high, are mostly “locked up” in hard-to-access pension and real estate assets, central bank Governor Nils Bernstein has said. 
Adjustable-rate loans, as well as loans that delay principle payments by as much as 10 years, make up more than half Denmark’s outstanding homeowner debt, according to the Association of Danish Mortgage Banks. Bernstein has urged the industry to phase out interest-only loans, which he says erode economic stability. 
Foreclosures jumped an annual 32 percent last month to a 17-year high, after Denmark’s economy fell into a recession in the second half and house prices sank an annual 8 percent in the fourth quarter. 
“What Moody’s is doing is putting pressure on the system, and that is not necessarily a bad thing,” said Peter Lindegaard, head of investments for Danica Pension, a unit of Danske Bank. Still, Lindegaard said Danica, which holds 20 billion kroner in mortgage debt, won’t exit Nykredit’s bonds after the lender dropped Moody’s. 
We think we know as much as Moody’s about how the system works,” Lindegaard said in an interview. “We still deem them a very secure investment.
Thanks for my friend Blbl for sending me the links a while ago! 

2012-02-06

Danish Credit Crunch Deepens

My friend SS sent me the following Bloomberg report.

Feb. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Denmark’s credit crunch is getting worse as businesses accuse banks of withholding funds and the financial regulator warns that deteriorating asset quality may put more lenders out of business. 
“When we ask our companies, small- and medium-sized, they say they are experiencing a credit crunch and it has become worse in the last month,” Karsten Dybvad, chief executive officer of the Danish Confederation of Industry, said in an interview in Copenhagen.  
Dybvad’s group, which represents 10,000 Danish firms, wants the financial regulator to give banks more leeway in meeting capital requirements so they don’t call in loans and fuel a vicious circle that’s stifling the $300 billion economy. In a December survey of confederation members, two thirds said they had limited access to financing, while one in five said an absence of funds was the biggest obstacle for growth. 
Three Danish banks, including Amagerbanken A/S, failed last year after the FSA required them to restate bad loans, leaving them in breach of capital rules. Two of the failures pushed losses on to senior creditors and exacerbated a funding squeeze that’s frozen most of Denmark’s 120 banks out of debt markets. 
[...] The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development warns an absence of credit may fuel a vicious circle in which businesses lack the funds to run their operations, leaving them unable to pay their debts.
[...] 
Denmark is also struggling to recover from a property bubble that burst in 2007, throwing the economy into a recession and killing jobs. House prices fell an annual 8.5 percent in November as the gap between bid and ask prices widened. Prices will have slumped 25 percent by 2013 since the crisis started in 2007, the government-backed Economic Council estimates.
[...] Denmark has the highest household debt load in the world, at 310 percent of disposable incomes, Exane BNP Paribas estimates.

Amazingly, credit addiction is deeply entrenched in Denmark as well, as this unbelievable statement from Dybvad group, which is asking the regulator to allow bankrupt banks to stay in business so that they can push on more loans... By the way, it looks like Mark-to-Fantasy has some limits in Denmark, while it's unlimited in the US, where the corruption of the system is far deeper than anywhere else in the developed world.

If you need to borrow money every month to keep your business running... Guess what? You're business should be closed long time ago and you're insolvent!

The OECD is saying that — I take a shortcut — if you don't lend the businesses money, they will go bankrupt... Eeeerrrm... How to put in a easy to understand statement? Well business, like states and countries, which rely on borrowing and spending and fail if no more credit is allowed are already insolvent. In addition to what, these kind of businesses have a name: Ponzi Schemes. One must be really from a communist country like France to believe otherwise.


What an amazing closing sentence... Now flashback in march 2011:
Denmark’s mortgage bond market is about 1 1/2 times the size of the country’s economy and more than seven times the size of the government bond market, according to the central bank.
And, flashback in 2009: I wrote a post titled Denmark the next country to default? where I basically made the same kind of forecasts.

Finally, flashback just a month ago, in January 2012:

 Jan. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Billionaire George Soros’s assertion that Denmark’s $480 billion mortgage credit system can weather any crisis better than any country where mortgages are bought and sold is proving the rule for international investors.
George Soros might be right, but weathering better doesn't mean that you're not going to make losses. I actually think losses will be substantial when banks default and debt is marked down.
The Nykredit Mortgage Bond Index, which includes the largest, most-traded of the securities, rose to a record this month, holding up through a real estate slump, a banking meltdown and Europe’s debt crisis. Home-loan bonds have gained 29.2 percent since 2007, beating U.S. Treasuries. 
[...] Denmark’s benchmark mortgage bonds have gained almost as much since the U.S. subprime collapse triggered the global credit seizure in 2007 than in the prior five years. Demand is surging even as home prices are projected to fall 25 percent by 2013 since the crisis, economic growth slows and unemployment rises, with investors gravitating to a country that’s one of only 12 nations in the world with AAA ratings at Standard & Poor’s, Moody’s Investors Service and Fitch Ratings. 
The Danish mortgage bond market differs from other countries in several key respects. When a homeowner in Denmark takes out a loan, the mortgage is immediately converted into a security of the same amount. A homeowner can then retire a mortgage either by paying off the loan or by purchasing an equivalent face value of the bonds at the market price.

Danes call this the balance principle. Mortgage issuers take all the credit risk, providing reserves in case a borrower defaults. Investors face a risk only on interest-rate fluctuations. Another difference with the U.S. is there are no government-sponsored companies involved in the market.
Can mortgage issuers take all the credit risk? How stupid is that statement, specially in 2012, when we saw what happened to similar schemes in the US? Fannie and Freddie anyone? If the mortgage guarantor defaults, what are your chances of getting back your principle?

2010-02-19

Sovereign defaults could start where nobody's watching [UPDATED]

According to this slideshow from CNBC, a lot highly leveraged/indebted countries are not currently under the radar of most. Here's a list of the 20 most debtor nation according to CNBC (data might need to be checked, and off-balance debt and liabilities added - pensions/social securities/etc. which don't appear as debt on many sovereign countries).


Country External Debt to GDP External Debt per capita Gross Q2 2009 external debt
United States 94.3% $44,000 $13.5 trillion
Hungary 105.7% $21,000 $210 billion
Australia 111.3% $42,000 $900 billion
Italy 126.7% $40,000 $2.3 trillion
Greece 161.1% $52,000 $553 billion
Spain 171.1% $60,000 $2.4 trillion
Germany 178.5% $63,000 $5.2 trillion
Finland 188.5% $70,000 $365 billion
Sweden 194.3% $74,000 $670 billion
Norway 199% $117,000 $550 billion
Hong Kong 205.8% $90,000 $631 billion
Portugal 214.4% $47,000 $507 billion
France 236% $78,000 $5 trillion
Austria 252.5% $101,000 $832 billion
Denmark 298.3% $110,000 $607 billion
Belgium 320% $119,000 $1.25 trillion
Netherlands 365% $147,000 $2.5 trillion
United Kingdom 408.3% $148,000 $9 trillion
Switzerland 422.7% $176,000 $1.34 trillion
Ireland 1,267% $568,000 $2.4 trillion
Notes:
  • I have rounded some figures, mostly the debt per capita
  • Q2 2009 debt is way outdated, since the second half of 2009 was a real collapse in tax income and that 2010 is likely as bad...
Conclusions:
  • Anybody who lends to any of these countries exposing himself to losing a big part of his investment, for a yield completely ridiculous compared to the risk.
  • The scandinavian model praised on all the newspapers and by most socialist-economists is actually a big failure and scandinavian failures will most likely default at the same time as many European countries...
  • While I have kind of forecasting a default coming from Denmark, I wasn't aware that Belgium and Netherlands where in such a big hole.
  • Who knew for Switzerland? How did they dig in such a deep hole for themselves? Are people investing in the CHF totally insane?
  • Ireland is bust
[Update] My friend "blbl" points me to this Wikipedia entry containing a list of countries by gross (i.e. total) external debt and by external debt per capita. It also provides the definition of external debt:
The external debt of a country is defined as the "total public and private debt owed to nonresidents repayable in foreign currency, goods, or services"
This is really important, as the debt also includes the private one (both individuals and corporations). It's not clear if it has to be in foreign currency or not, though I doubt it, given that the US for example, have only borrowed in their own currency.

He also thinks that Luxembourg and Switzerland are in the top list because they tend to attract lots of "shell companies" and their debt. Which makes sense I believe.

2009-06-14

Denmark the next country to default?

Bloomberg has published an article summing up information found in a ECB report and the conclusions are quite scary. The UK is in very serious trouble, but it looks like Denmark is in far worst state than even the UK. All in all, I am a bit doubtful about my long EUR position against both the USD and GBP because depending on what the ECB will do following the collapse of one of the many default-candidates in the Eurozone. My position will need to be assessed but for now, I think the ECB has been able to control is destructive powers and even if I stated several times that Trichet should resign, it still seems that he's trying to avoid following the BoE and the Fed toward hyper-inflation. [Update: Just to clarify, Denmark is not in the Eurozone. But Portugal, Greece, Spain, Italy are. It will also be interesting to see what the ECB does if (when?) Denmark defaults]
June 12 (Bloomberg) -- European governments have approved $5.3 trillion of aid, more than the annual gross domestic product of Germany, to support banks during the credit crunch, according to a European Union document.

The U.K. pledged 781.2 billion euros ($1.1 trillion) to restore confidence in its lenders, the most of any of the 27 EU members, according to a May 26 document prepared by officials from the European Commission, the European Central Bank and member states and obtained by Bloomberg News. Denmark, where 13 of the country’s 140 banks were bailed out by the central bank or bought by rivals last year, committed 593.9 billion euros. [...]
[My Comment: Denmark: Population of 5.5 Million (less than Greater London) GDP of around $200 Million, 140 banks (!!!!) 13 of which were bailed out with about 600 B€ that is about 4 times the GDP of country. Denmark reminds me of Iceland...]

EU governments approved about 311.4 billion euros for capital injections, 2.92 trillion euros for bank liability guarantees, 33 billion euros for relief of impaired assets and 505.6 billion euros for liquidity and bank funding support, a total of 3.77 trillion euros, the document shows.

The U.S. government and the Federal Reserve had spent, lent or committed $12.8 trillion, an amount that approaches the value of everything produced in the country last year, as of March 31.
[My Comment: there still is a huge gap between the waste done by the EU and the US]

A majority of new member states including Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Estonia and Lithuania have not taken public measures to support their financial markets, the draft said. Many banks in the region are foreign-owned. More than 80 percent of bank loans in central and eastern Europe come from lenders owned by six western European EU countries, according to Moody’s Investors Service.

All together, the EU paper said that 18 member states have introduced bank liability guarantees, 15 have approved recapitalization measures, and 11 have given liquidity support.[...]

The British government this year secured promises of additional mortgage and business lending from Lloyds Banking Group Plc, Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc and Northern Rock Plc in return for aid.[...]

Banks in Germany received the third-largest amount in aid, the document showed, for a total of 554.2 billion euros. Commerzbank AG, Germany’s second-biggest bank, was told to sell its Eurohypo commercial property unit by the Commission on May 7 to win approval for a second bailout by the German government.

Following is a table of European government’s commitments. All figures are in billions of euros and include capital injections, guarantees granted, effective asset relief and liquidity interventions.

United Kingdom 781.2
Denmark 593.9
Germany 554.2
Ireland 384.5
France 350.1
Belgium 264.5
Netherlands 246.1
Austria 165
Sweden 142
Spain 130
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